Meet the Gay Mormons

Note: Apparently, not all church leaders agree on certain aspects of this issue, nor do members. We at SoL have been given to understand that strong differing opinions are understood and tolerated within the church. SoL's view is not based on current cultural trends and sentimental human relations and  emotional stories but on Scripture, universally true principles, real charity, and timeless objective moral standards that come from God. 

The following is our response to the new page, mormonandgay.lds.org. And we've also been reading some of the responses from the other side. It seems this is yet another effort to make everyone happy which has resulted in nobody being made happy, at least not the ones who take this issue seriously. It's astonishing that the Word of God does not have the first, middle, and last word. The Bible is absolutely clear about homosexual lusts and behaviors being wicked and repentance through Christ being available and necessary to all who care about God and eternal life. We think Mormon homosexualists know that they are at opposition with Scripture, as in the Standard Works, as in the Standard for the regulation and spiritual growth of all immortal souls. It looks like they have to work very hard to justify their moral relativism and denial of the plain and precious gospel, God's plan, which comprises sin and possible repentance and redemption through Christ. It doesn't matter if people are born that way, which they aren't, or not; these lusts and all degrees of behaviors are destructive and sinful.

Here are some of our thoughts about this mormonandgay.lds,org.

This page boasts diverse individuals' stories but neglects to show any of the people who have resisted and overcome homosexuality. (We know plenty and have ourselves published two books on this subject, My Darling From the Lions and Captain of My Soul, highly endorsed and prefaced by experts, yet rejected by leading LDS publisher Deseret Book. D.B.'s books on this topic are gay-affirming and have no expert endorsements. Make of that what you will.)

Christ's gospel of sin, repentance, and redemption is not emphasized, rather it argues in favor of the weakness of homosexual lust.

The Atonement is mischaracterized as something that can make us comfortable with our sinfulness rather than humbling and changing and purifying our desires.

The dark, broken, rebellious, pornographic, addictive, promiscuous, narcissistic, dangerous world of homosexual lust and how people get into it is completely ignored.

Homosexuality is portrayed as a harmless orientation rather than a disorder or sin.

Homosexual behaviors are not clearly defined. Therefore, any individual or ward leader can choose to put up boundaries, or not, anywhere they please.

Mormon gays are shown as sympathetic characters because they are not officially allowed the full perverse and dangerous physical homosexual contacts they desire. 

No concern is shown for the obvious depravity or emotional and mental illnesses of the gays highlighted. How unkind is that?

"Authenticity," as in accepting the natural man and sharing one's feelings, is considered the highest value and most helpful attribute. Not reality, not truth, not goodness, not virtue, not humility, not repentance, not forgiveness, not love of God and His word. Just authenticity. Authenticity is nothing in and of itself. A serial killer is authentic. It is incredible that certain people's trendy pro-gay stories are held in the highest esteem regardless of holy scripture and regardless of the crimes or causes or illnesses behind these stories. In reality, these stories are probably not authentic at all; at best they are whitewashing, denial, incomplete, deceptive and justification for sin.

No help is offered for healing from horrific child sexual abuse, as in the sad case of Ricardo. He explains how at a very young age he was seduced and initiated into homosex by predatory older males, which he admits had a huge influence on him and obviously interfered with normal sexual development. Astonishingly, the story is apparently included to convince us to embrace this person's resulting choice for a homosexual lust identity rather than to show evidence of serious crimes against him as a child and his ruined life. He says that sharing his feelings helped him see that "nothing is broken or needs to be fixed." Oh really?

There appears to be some disconnect on what sexual purity and healthy sexuality actually are as in the case of lesbian Laurie who says, "The gospel has not made me attracted to men. But it has helped me be attracted to one man." What? Aren't we all supposed to keep our sexual attraction focused on one person---our spouse? This statement shows some seriously obsessive wrong-headedness by way of sexually objectifying human beings in general. It seems that gays/lesbians walk into a room and see sex and sexuality, not people.

The greatest available comfort for gays is shown to be, not God's love and truth, repentance through Christ, and spiritual guidance, but human relations by way of venting one's feelings on others. Tanya tells about her son who was so relieved to "come out" but who was still so depressed that he only lasted 5 months on his 2-year mission. Once home he was put in a ward leadership position! This is how we deal with spiritual death and sexual sin and confusion and mental illness? 

Perhaps the most disturbing part of this web page concerns the now popular worldview of professional therapy for gays. In a nutshell, LDS therapists are instructed to confirm the gay person's gayness, regardless of any previous abuse, underlying trauma, or pathology, regardless of the hippocratic oath, regardless of the therapist's knowledge, experience, and life's work, regardless of his convictions about God or morality and his constitutionally protected right to exercise them, regardless even of a client's fervent wish to repent, heal, and change! Not only is this website saying: Be gay but don't actually live gay, but to the therapists it is saying: Be Christian but don't actually live Christian. This is what is called crazy-making. Thomas Jefferson called it tyranny over the mind of man.


Please note that there is no mention of any kind about therapists helping a person change and overcome homosexuality, even if that is what they seek!  What is really occurring here, whether leaders know it or not, is systematic activism toward the full acceptance of homosexual behaviors in the church.

SoL knows who is behind this goofy web page. It's people we've written about before who wish to remake the church and the gospel of Jesus Christ to include homosex. They have set themselves up as a light, have the ear of some leaders, and patiently push their agenda in every possible way. They are openly against change therapy, even though they are forced to admit "shifts in sexuality can and do occur." These people could sell refrigerators to Eskimos. They have got the church stating that people who wish to change and want counseling in that direction are not to be helped in that way because these pro-gay pseudo-therapists, some of which are proud homosexuals themselves, assume it should not happen.

And another thing. If Mormon gays are never supposed to act out their sexual fantasies in any way, why does everybody need to know about them? Isn't the management of one's personal sexuality a private part of life for everyone, single or married?  Aren't gays exactly the same as other members in this way? In other words, why do these particular people feel free to make their private sexual feelings public, and what is everybody else supposed to do about it? The web page does not make this clear. We can only assume that we are being instructed to treat self-proclaimed gays as more special than anyone else and never to help them overcome their miserable oversexed minset--why? Because this fits in with what the world is doing?

It appears that this page exists, at least in part, to indoctrinate the general membership into especially recognizing homosexuals, accepting perverse sexual lust as immutable, ignoring sexual abuse and emotional and mental illness, and treating open homosexuals as healthy, harmless fellow congregants/leaders.

Whatever a church says about its ultimate disapproval of this age-old sin that got two cities burned to the ground by the Lord is completely drowned out by the "respect" and "acceptance" we are being coerced to exercise regarding a person's self-proclaimed harmful and unnatural sexual attractions. Apparently, our human relations and interests, no matter how steeped in sin we humans are, are more important than truth, our relationship with the Godhead, and the welfare of our immortal souls. Apparently homosexuality, once considered a vice so ugly that polite society would not name it, is now touted by churches as an attractive characteristic. Yes, in this case gay is just another interesting and world-friendly kind of Mormon we can boast we include in our midst. 

It's not too hard to imagine what kinds of things will happen next. "The triumph of sin [and illness and insanity and Godlessness and every other bad thing] comes with our failure to perceive it (Roger Scruton)."